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As I understand it being a CA member does not cover you as an RYA or RYA affiliated member for the purposes of entering an open meeting.

Its funny, I had that understanding too, but from doing some sketchy looking up recently, from the RRS point of view I don't see why it should be. I don't know if its to do with the Yotty concept of reciprocal privileges between clubs, but that sort of nonsense doesn't come into my life!
If anyone's really concerned they could check with the RYA rules query service.

I might drop the RYA a question (being chair of a CA it would be a legitimate question I feel).
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Originally posted by jeffers

Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by jeffers

As I understand it being a CA member does not cover you as an RYA or RYA affiliated member for the purposes of entering an open meeting.

Its funny, I had that understanding too, but from doing some sketchy looking up recently, from the RRS point of view I don't see why it should be. I don't know if its to do with the Yotty concept of reciprocal privileges between clubs, but that sort of nonsense doesn't come into my life!
If anyone's really concerned they could check with the RYA rules query service.

I might drop the RYA a question (being chair of a CA it would be a legitimate question I feel).


but only send their response to RYA members via PM.... otherwise the rest of them are just freeloading ;-)
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Originally posted by turnturtle

Originally posted by jeffers

Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by jeffers

As I understand it being a CA member does not cover you as an RYA or RYA affiliated member for the purposes of entering an open meeting.

Its funny, I had that understanding too, but from doing some sketchy looking up recently, from the RRS point of view I don't see why it should be. I don't know if its to do with the Yotty concept of reciprocal privileges between clubs, but that sort of nonsense doesn't come into my life!
If anyone's really concerned they could check with the RYA rules query service.

I might drop the RYA a question (being chair of a CA it would be a legitimate question I feel).


but only send their response to RYA members via PM.... otherwise the rest of them are just freeloading ;-)

I have to be a personal member anyway as I am an instructor so they can't get out of that. Failing that i will just go bother them at the Show on Sunday.

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make sure you take your membership card.... they'l be checking for the freeloaders 

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as a viable alternative:  45 quid for single membership.... no duties either.

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Interesting but they would have to be an RYA Affiliated club for this to work. No mention of this on their website.
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I don't think it would be hard to find an RYA affiliated club that has a country membership or similar with fee under 45 quid.

Indeed my own club has an Associate membership at 36 quid for former full members. It doesn't give rights to sail, only to use shore facilities. No doubt plenty of other clubs do something similar. I don't see why that sort of thing shouln't be good enough for the RRS because it does put you in the chain of accepting the auhority of RYA and ISAF/WS

http://www.islandbarn.org.uk/index.php/membership/about-membership/41-membership-classes
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Originally posted by Time Lord

Interesting but they would have to be an RYA Affiliated club for this to work. No mention of this on their website.

When they set up in 2013 they had, according to YBW.com, "contacted the RYA with a view to affiliate membership".

Can't see they won't have go it and, as far as I can see many clubs don't mention it in their literature/website unless they are a training centre.
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Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by jeffers

As I understand it being a CA member does not cover you as an RYA or RYA affiliated member for the purposes of entering an open meeting.

Its funny, I had that understanding too, but from doing some sketchy looking up recently, from the RRS point of view I don't see why it should be. I don't know if its to do with the Yotty concept of reciprocal privileges between clubs, but that sort of nonsense doesn't come into my life!
If anyone's really concerned they could check with the RYA rules query service.
RRS 75.1 is the World Sailing rule that applies and refers to the person who enters a boat who typically is required to be "a member of a club or other organisation affiliated to a World Sailing member national authority".

NOR or SI can impose other requirements, as can Class Association rules, for example:
  • NOR/SI might impose requirements on 'persons in charge', or crews;
  • Some Class Associations have a rule that crew must be members of the CA.
I suggest that you have a look at some typical NOR/SI.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sam.Spoons Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Mar 17 at 9:07am
True but the NOR/SI can't remove the obligation to abide by rule 75.1 can it?
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