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Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

True but the NOR/SI can't remove the obligation to abide by rule 75.1 can it?
No, NOR/SI cannot change rule 75 (rule 86.1).

But that doesn't impose any obligation on an OA/RC to do anything to enforce rule 75.1.
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as a viable alternative:  45 quid for single membership.... no duties either.

http://www.cnyc.co.uk/about-us/

Or you could be a personal RYA member for the same.
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Originally posted by turnturtle

as a viable alternative:  45 quid for single membership.... no duties either.

http://www.cnyc.co.uk/about-us/

Or you could be a personal RYA member for the same.

not if you have a pathological hatred for the RYA... which the OP appears to have.
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Originally posted by turnturtle

Originally posted by PeterG

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as a viable alternative:  45 quid for single membership.... no duties either.

http://www.cnyc.co.uk/about-us/

Or you could be a personal RYA member for the same.

not if you have a pathological hatred for the RYA... which the OP appears to have.

Either way some of their hard earned will end up with the RYA if they join an affiliated club or class association.
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indeed- but it's like banking with Barclays and funding terrorism.  You're a stage or two away from going full Lord of War



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Originally posted by Brass

Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

True but the NOR/SI can't remove the obligation to abide by rule 75.1 can it?
No, NOR/SI cannot change rule 75 (rule 86.1).

But that doesn't impose any obligation on an OA/RC to do anything to enforce rule 75.1.
But if a boat protested another boat for failing to comply with rule 75.1 then a PC would have to hear that protest, and if they found the protest to be valid and that the protested boat had indeed failed to comply with 75.1 then they would have to disqualify it wouldn't they?

Also a potentially interesting debate to be had about whether it is an improper action or omission of the RC or OA to not enforce rule 75.1 if they know that a boat is non-compliant.
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OK, if you buy my fleet deal on Bic Technos you can have this AK-47 for when the cadets get out of line?

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Brass Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Mar 17 at 1:48pm
Originally posted by GML

Originally posted by Brass

Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

True but the NOR/SI can't remove the obligation to abide by rule 75.1 can it?
No, NOR/SI cannot change rule 75 (rule 86.1).

But that doesn't impose any obligation on an OA/RC to do anything to enforce rule 75.1.
But if a boat protested another boat for failing to comply with rule 75.1 then a PC would have to hear that protest, and if they found the protest to be valid and that the protested boat had indeed failed to comply with 75.1 then they would have to disqualify it wouldn't they?

Indeed they would.

What sort of evidence do you think a protesting boat might bring to prove that the person who entered another boat was not qualified under rule 75.1, or indeed, who the 'person who entered the boat' was?

Also a potentially interesting debate to be had about whether it is an improper action or omission of the RC or OA to not enforce rule 75.1 if they know that a boat is non-compliant.

You could have a debate about whether a race committee should protest a boat, or whether they should have checked membership before accepting an entry, but that's different from whether it is an 'improper action' not to do so.

See rule 60.

An OA has no status to protest a boat at all, although an OA might direct a RC to take some action (rule 90.1)

A RC may protest a boat (rule 60.2( a )).  This implies that, at it's discretion, a race committee may choose not to protest a boat.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sam.Spoons Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Mar 17 at 2:52pm
Yup, the RRS are generally enforced by the competitors themselves, it's only at large events where jury boats are empowered to enforce the RRS. It may be tho only sport that does this (I can't think of another anyhow).
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