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Originally posted by Chris 249

Yes, it would be a baby FD, but an FD you could singlehand when your crew could not sail, just as quite a few cats do it.

SS, the mast step is already a long way back in the Contender; pretty much in the same spot as many sloops. Given the designed rake in the centreboard, I tend to think that the balance issue could be sorted by changing it to a more upright angle.

By the way, I've seen a Contender fully converted to a two-person sloop with assy and wings. IMHO the wings would add too much weight so you'd be better off with a single trap.

just build one of these, it's about as heavy...



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Unfortunately, some time ago, I had to admit to myself that my "perfect boat" exists already, I just don't have time to sail one to the level that would make me happy or justify the expense; i14.

I would love to add a bit more beam and a bit more waterline length to the 100, I really enjoy it but it doesn't go upwind as rewardingly as it goes down and the extra righting moment would make the bigger sail more practical, which I think would also help the upwind performance too.

Lastly, if time and money were no object at all, I'd like a 35ft-40ft version of "Hugo Boss" complete with canting keel, mega-rig and crazy foils.  Maybe a bicycle grinder rather than the more trad pedestal, just to stay on trend and 'cos I like my bike riding too !
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Add some outriggers to the old miracle and turn it into something like one of those hobie trifoiler thingys

May have to jack the rig up a bit too ....

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what issues would I have to contend with if I fitted outriggers to wings on my Minisprint ?
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Originally posted by 423zero

what issues would I have to contend with if I fitted outriggers to wings on my Minisprint ?


Big wetted surface. Which then needs a big rig to drive it, which rips the mast pot out.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Chris 249 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Feb 17 at 10:38pm
Originally posted by Jack Sparrow

Originally posted by Chris 249

Yes, it would be a baby FD, but an FD you could singlehand when your crew could not sail, just as quite a few cats do it.

SS, the mast step is already a long way back in the Contender; pretty much in the same spot as many sloops. Given the designed rake in the centreboard, I tend to think that the balance issue could be sorted by changing it to a more upright angle.

By the way, I've seen a Contender fully converted to a two-person sloop with assy and wings. IMHO the wings would add too much weight so you'd be better off with a single trap.

just build one of these, it's about as heavy...




Yep, but the Solo Skiff isn't readily available cheaply second hand, and it's probably harder to fit a crew on. It's also a new build rather than a Frankenboat.

At a time when we keep on hearing about crew issues and seeing a drop in two-handed performance dinghies, it would seem reasonable to look at some new ideas in the sector. The way that boats like the Contender, L3000 and 29er appear to be able to work with one or two people onboard indicate that the concept can work as long as the hull is fairly skinny and flat. 

I'm also biased, as I always thought the SS was over-sold. The idea that the magical synchronised sheeting system would compensate for the big rig and lack of RM ignored the fact that simply easing main and jib together didn't have a massive effect in other classes. 
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I only know one person who owned a Skiff Solo, and he loved it. Had to sell to move to the UK, and now sails a Zero, but has been seen/heard (whatever Facebook counts as) to muse on bringing one across.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Rupert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Feb 17 at 7:43am
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Originally posted by 423zero

what issues would I have to contend with if I fitted outriggers to wings on my Minisprint ?


Big wetted surface. Which then needs a big rig to drive it, which rips the mast pot out.


Hasn't stopped me thinking about it, mind, but with a long sliding seat with an ama on each end, so you and up with a Pacific proa you don't have to reverse tack, and you can have security under the seat for those of us who are less nimble. An old IC would work better, though, as less influenced by the drag of the ama hitting the water.
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Originally posted by Rupert

I only know one person who owned a Skiff Solo, and he loved it. Had to sell to move to the UK, and now sails a Zero, but has been seen/heard (whatever Facebook counts as) to muse on bringing one across.

He is definitely considering it if we are talking about the same person.....
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Might need more space than Hunts to drop the kite, though!
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