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    Posted: 08 Feb 17 at 11:12am
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Forget about the boat itself - both teach good skills, but nothing you can't pick up later on.  

Choose the class with the best (for you) social scene....  be honest about how much time the next 4 years you'll have  to travel (school stuff is about to get bat-sh*t crazy and it doesn't ease off into A-Levels or their equivalent) and speak to your folks if they are prepared to drag you around until you get your own wheels.  

Whatever you do, have as much fun as you can, swap boats with mates and switch around crews if you guys have a group rolling  ... these could very well be the best sailing years of your life until you retire, so make the absolute most of it mate.


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I'm surprised no one has mentioned a Fireball, there are loads of competitive f'balls at great prices, last time I looked they were well spread out around the country and there is good class racing at many clubs or at the worst several other boats to play with.. Having a trapeze also makes it much more fun. I sold my last woodie f'ball for what I paid for it after 3 years racing and could have upgraded fairly cheaply to a Winder except I wanted a change.  But it is a great boat and for anything from say 500 upwards you'll get a great sail and plenty of others to play with!   Just a thought!
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Originally posted by James_Gibson


Yeh, I'll try and pm him. Well, I'm buying the boat myself so the 200 might be the better option, especially if I don't have to travel as far. Would you know who to talk to about the northern youth squads?
I'll drop you the details in a PM.
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Buy whichever boat (which you can afford) most makes you get up in the morning and go "god dammit, i wanna go sailing"

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Originally posted by zippyRN


is the four-twinkie's  durability still a bit suspect  due to the french bathroom designer lack of   cross  structural bracing ?

They used to be abysmal in terms of longevity, i think one builder has got them as good as they are ever likely to get but i would imagine you still wouldn't want to be the third or fourth owner after 7 or 8 years hard use. 

Cant comment from first hand experience though, and to be fair this is not unique to 420s though i believe perceived resale value to be a striking weakness of the class.
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Originally posted by Paramedic

The only thing about the 420 and 29er is they're pretty much squaddie boats and not much else (29er less so i think). They are expensive to get into properly and once you're in your class racing is it training events and selectors only - or at least this is how it appears, when did you last see a 420 open meeting report?

I'm sure the RYA training system is excellent, especially if you show promise and progress through the system, but the cost of travel, the boat and the time you need to put in may well take the fun out of it - sailing is something you should do because you want to not because you have to.

is the four-twinkie's  durability still a bit suspect  due to the french bathroom designer lack of   cross  structural bracing ?
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The 200 seems a more versatile boat than the 29er too, not so 'skiffy' and a bit less radical so better suited to the smaller lakes many dinghy clubs sail on.

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Yes, I have a committed crew. I'm thinking more towards the 200 as it is more in my price range and has more northern presence. Thanks for all the advice
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Just had a quick look at Yorkshire Dales sail wave results for the autumn series, there were 6 x 200s and 2 x 29ers (one sailed by Keith's brother Ian) out of 46 boats entered (and no 420s).

Supplimentary question :- do you have a regular and equally committed crew?
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