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    Posted: 25 Jan 17 at 1:34pm
Lots of people say reaching is just a procession but from my point of view thats total Bolxxks as I keep getting passed on the reaches we sail in the Phantom.
Part of it is weight which I am working on but not all.
So what do people look at trimming the sail?
What other things would people suggest to work on?
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Yeah it is nonsense.
Its a cliche that's come out of american leadmines I think.
And even if there isn't much overtaking the difference in tactical options available to the sailor who's opened up a big gap behind him/her are entirely different to those for the sailor who has a huge mob snapping at her/his heels.

As for your problem: I'm lousy at reaching too!
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Telltails, boat and sail trim, keep looking for wind and keep out of the way of other boats wind shadows. That's the theory as I see it, however, I wouldn't claim to be any good at reaching (or running..... or, come to think of it beating  Ermm) either. Now on a Raceboard I'd say "pump like f... crazy" but that doesn't help much in a Phant or a Blaze.....

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Lots of peeps seem to get to the top mark and regard the reach as a 'rest'. Hard work offwind is rewarded, especially in waves.
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I find I am using fast on the reaches and can make up places so definitely not a rest, an opportunity. Not as tactical as the run but often overlooked (and it is fun)
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I know when sailing the 400 its allways spouted by the lightweights who might get rolled.
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I'm with Jeffers, I generally make back ground on reaches, dependant on the boat.

Tactically on the sea I'm a go low on the first and high on the second in onshore wind, and high if the wind is offshore, so that tends to be sail a bit high on the lake unless there's a little Venturi to be had by the bank.

You need to use your ears on a reach listen for too much water noise and sit forward to stop it, and the wind of course, to ahem, adjust the sail trim with the varying windspeed to make sure the flow is attached correctly.. If it's light I try to hold the rig direct either with my hands or grabbing the entire bunch of rope so I can get a more live 'feel', old windsurf habits die hard, i can't won't don't read tel tales, if it's breezy I go deep as quick as I can.

I don't let the kicker off unless there is a very real fear of the boom digging in, it seems counter intuitive, ironically unless it's very light, then the sail seems to breath better, I'm probably doing it wrong I can't say I've totally gotten to grip with the damn kicker thing when it should be on and off it was so much better when I had sails that didn't need it because they worked automatically.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sam.Spoons Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Jan 17 at 5:15pm
Originally posted by iGRF

I don't let the kicker off unless there is a very real fear of the boom digging in, it seems counter intuitive, ironically unless it's very light, then the sail seems to breath better, I'm probably doing it wrong I can't say I've totally gotten to grip with the damn kicker thing when it should be on and off it was so much better when I had sails that didn't need it because they worked automatically.

Kicker varies from boat to boat. Spice/tight rig boat with a mast gate pull it on to tighten the leech for power, Blaze, slack rig/lowers pull it on to depower ('cos it bends the mast by pushing the boom into it) upwind.......... Probably not got that quite right, I'm still relearning this dinghy 5hit and it's changed a bit since I raced an OK with a wooden rig.....
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Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

Telltails, boat and sail trim, keep looking for wind and keep out of the way of other boats wind shadows. That's the theory as I see it, however, I wouldn't claim to be any good at reaching (or running..... or, come to think of it beating  Ermm) either. Now on a Raceboard I'd say "pump like f... crazy" but that doesn't help much in a Phant or a Blaze.....


yep makes sense ...  If you want to look at the  'difference' the right  sail trim makes  you  only need look at  some of the stuff that happens with  begineers , where overwieght and  oversized  instructors /assistants  have  significantly better speed  than the leerners because they have  reached stage 5  of the 4 stage  model of skill development ( unconscious competence and  can teach it while still performing ) 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote laser193713 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Jan 17 at 11:10am
I would say the best tip I ever had was to do with kicker tension. It seems to be the driving factor when it comes to boat speed in single handers. Experiment with it but the sweet spot always seems to be that point where the leech can't quite decide whether it wants to be open or closed. Particularly noticeable on a run too, ease the kicker until the leech falls forwards, then pull it on a touch and it will start moving around a lot by its own accord. This always seems to work for me, no matter what class. It's particularly noticeable in boats with no kite, but works in all boats.
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