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"Marke" your thread has arrived....

Have a look at the "RaceManager" system Starcross use. Fully automated. From electronic sign on, through starting the race with automated lights to posting results on their website within seconds of the race finishing. Brilliant.

Their program does ask you to click on a list of competitors but cleverly it works out approx who should be coming over the line next on a handicap basis so the list is ordered as you should roughly see the boats (within reason), rather than just being alphabetical.

They have a practice version on the internet for their OD's to swat up on before their duty here:

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Anyone here from Starcross?
Where can we get one?
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We used the Starcross system for a couple of years, but have now reverted back to clocks, paper and Sailwave.  

Race Manager will probably work best if you are prepared to run races the same way as Starcross, i.e. Have electronic signing on as you walk out of the changing room, race multiple laps and have race teams that are not scared of computers and who have invested the time in learning the system.

Anyone looked at Hoot?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote piglet Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Mar 17 at 10:11am
David,
I'm interested to know why you ditched the Starcross system, was it just  too complicated for duty RO's?
I can't find Hoot, There is Autohoot which is a simple start timer.
 
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We got a new timer recently, I thibk it is an autohoot, I will find out. We have technophobes so anything past a timer and pen and paper is a little too much for most RO volunteers.

We do have someone who transcribes it all in to Sailwave though.
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We installed an auto system linked to lights last year, some GP14 sailor wrote it, it's been upgraded through the winter, and there are courses next week to explain the differences. It was supposed to make the whole race officer process easier, but when you're club is called the Hythe and Stupid Sailing Club, there's not much chance of that. Dinghy sailors don't always 'get' technology and it'll be back to paper pen and calculator or my name's not sailing genius.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote davidyacht Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Mar 17 at 7:47am
Sorry, meant Autohoot, we have a bespoke system that does much the same, which saves on a pair of hands.

Ref. Race Manager; we ditched it but in fairness to RM I think that both our sailors and race teams were too set in their ways to adapt.  It works best if boats sign on to populate the database, we launch from two points in the harbour which meant signing on from home.  

We often sail single lap races (a lap can take over an hour) which means you might not have the chance to get the fleet into a running order.

The real driver was the ability to take handicap times, but our RO's struggled with the start up procedure, and recording the results.  We also had an issue with multiple entries of the same boat, different helms different crews ... unique to us because boats count for series not people!



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Post Options Post Options   Quote piglet Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Mar 17 at 7:59am
I'm wondering how many clubs have bespoke systems/gadgets because of inflexibility?
We obviously need the Eu to step in and create a standard format that won't work for anyone.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote PeterG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Mar 17 at 9:52am
but when you're club is called the Hythe and Stupid Sailing Club, there's not much chance of that.

Great to see a Commodore embrace the role of promoting the club so whole heartedly Clap

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Post Options Post Options   Quote transient Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Mar 17 at 11:20am
The adage "if it ain't broke don't fix it" does have a some validity.

We currently have an automated system that times, calculates results, sounds hooters, operates lights and gives a printout. It copes with recalls, multiple starts, abandonment's. Times are also kept manually in case of PC failure (not unknown) or operator error. (more frequent)

The cons are: It doesn't communicate directly with sailwave. Relays sometimes burn out as do halogen bulbs. It's not terribly difficult to operate so long as you keep your hand in. Only doing it once a year is not a good idea. The biggest future problem  is that it will no longer work with the latest operating systems.

There is a push at the club to change systems, RC-Pro has been mentioned (? website not available, this gives me doubts) but I reckon we can squeeze another 10 years out of the old system before we have to change by which time a better option may be available......

......change for change sake is not a good idea.

Anyone using RC-Pro ?




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