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    Posted: 18 Mar 17 at 6:10pm
I resigned, a couple of months ahead of my 'term' after much aggravation ....

OK, I can see where you're coming from! They might want to expunge you from their website Wink
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Originally posted by PeterG

but when you're club is called the Hythe and Stupid Sailing Club, there's not much chance of that.

Great to see a Commodore embrace the role of promoting the club so whole heartedly Clap

I resigned, a couple of months ahead of my 'term' after much aggravation which culminated in them voting down the option of a brand new facility with everything a club could wish for and extra boat spaces we badly need, all because of the actions of a few nimbys against the local development that would have facilitated it and a group of more socially oriented 'cheap beach hut on the seafront near to town' social members.  I've yet to rejoin this season and am still considering wether I'll bother at all, it's more tactical fun racing on the lake anyway.
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At our club working in the Racebox can be quite an enjoyable sociable experience, so much so that quite a few non-sailors are happy to act as time keepers or flags, adding a computer screen in a darkened space that requires additional concentration changes the dynamics ... and the desire for volunteers to get involved.

Entering results in Sailwave is not too difficult, what is a pain is propergating the entry list before entering the results.
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The adage "if it ain't broke don't fix it" does have a some validity.

We currently have an automated system that times, calculates results, sounds hooters, operates lights and gives a printout. It copes with recalls, multiple starts, abandonment's. Times are also kept manually in case of PC failure (not unknown) or operator error. (more frequent)

The cons are: It doesn't communicate directly with sailwave. Relays sometimes burn out as do halogen bulbs. It's not terribly difficult to operate so long as you keep your hand in. Only doing it once a year is not a good idea. The biggest future problem  is that it will no longer work with the latest operating systems.

There is a push at the club to change systems, RC-Pro has been mentioned (? website not available, this gives me doubts) but I reckon we can squeeze another 10 years out of the old system before we have to change by which time a better option may be available......

......change for change sake is not a good idea.

Anyone using RC-Pro ?




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but when you're club is called the Hythe and Stupid Sailing Club, there's not much chance of that.

Great to see a Commodore embrace the role of promoting the club so whole heartedly Clap

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Post Options Post Options   Quote piglet Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Mar 17 at 7:59am
I'm wondering how many clubs have bespoke systems/gadgets because of inflexibility?
We obviously need the Eu to step in and create a standard format that won't work for anyone.
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Sorry, meant Autohoot, we have a bespoke system that does much the same, which saves on a pair of hands.

Ref. Race Manager; we ditched it but in fairness to RM I think that both our sailors and race teams were too set in their ways to adapt.  It works best if boats sign on to populate the database, we launch from two points in the harbour which meant signing on from home.  

We often sail single lap races (a lap can take over an hour) which means you might not have the chance to get the fleet into a running order.

The real driver was the ability to take handicap times, but our RO's struggled with the start up procedure, and recording the results.  We also had an issue with multiple entries of the same boat, different helms different crews ... unique to us because boats count for series not people!



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Post Options Post Options   Quote G.R.F. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Mar 17 at 8:31pm
We installed an auto system linked to lights last year, some GP14 sailor wrote it, it's been upgraded through the winter, and there are courses next week to explain the differences. It was supposed to make the whole race officer process easier, but when you're club is called the Hythe and Stupid Sailing Club, there's not much chance of that. Dinghy sailors don't always 'get' technology and it'll be back to paper pen and calculator or my name's not sailing genius.

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We got a new timer recently, I thibk it is an autohoot, I will find out. We have technophobes so anything past a timer and pen and paper is a little too much for most RO volunteers.

We do have someone who transcribes it all in to Sailwave though.
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David,
I'm interested to know why you ditched the Starcross system, was it just  too complicated for duty RO's?
I can't find Hoot, There is Autohoot which is a simple start timer.
 
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