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pompeysailor
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Topic: World Sailing and Rio Posted: 24 Jun 16 at 9:37am |
Wondering if World Sailing will follow IAAF and the International Weightlifting Federation in banning Russia (and other named countries if they have entries?) from sailing in Rio?
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Presuming Ed
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 Jun 16 at 11:13am |
Is there any evidence of Russian sailors doping? Have any sailors been banned for doping (apart from Simon Daubney)?
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blueboy
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 25 Jun 16 at 7:16am |
IIRC there have been other cases of sailors being banned after positive tests for recreational drugs. I cannot remember names. Simon Daubney's case was also for a recreational drug. I don't recall any bans on sailors for non-recreational drugs.
I personally don't think it is WADA's proper role to involve itself with non performance-enhancing drugs. |
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JimC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 25 Jun 16 at 10:46am |
So called recreational drugs still have pharmacological effects. It would be a very strange line to draw.
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 25 Jun 16 at 2:54pm |
Considering sailors doing the olympic circuit have to perform at a predictably big breeze venue one week and then a light breeze venue shortly after and are usually expected to perform well at both in order to maintain funding, a recreational drug such as Cocaine can be used to help ditch weight. Not exactly the best choice drug for it but it at least gives you a potential get out clause should you get tested that it wasn't for performance benefits and that it's only a "recreational drug".
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blueboy
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 25 Jun 16 at 4:13pm |
I don't think cocaine is going to help you with rapid short-term weight loss. It's an appetite suppressant, that's all. Apart from which, someone I knew with a taste for the stuff could certainly not be described as thin.
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 25 Jun 16 at 4:51pm |
Oh I don't think it's that effective, but it's a case of which drugs could be used for effect, and what can you get away with. At that point Wada would have good grounds to make decisions to ban things which are typically seen as recreational drugs.
Get caught with Clenbuteral in your system or particular corticosteroids, which would be far more effective, and it's hard to argue against a ban. The moment atheletes may attempt other drugs that they can make an arguement for (such as it's "only recreational), then Wada should take that into consideration. In actual fact Wada's aim in it's drugs selected for banning, or so they claim, is to prevent damage to the athlete. Thus why caffiene gets a free pass as it's seen not to do damage but cocaine is on the banned list. Anti-doping is a whole fascinating world where most of the time the anti-doping agencies are even unsure as to why they're banning some things and letting others go (though constantly trying to defend their position as if they believe what they're saying). I think in reality recreational drugs are banned purely from a political point of view but that isn't to say that they don't have potential performance benefits. Back to the topic of Cocaine, I believe both daniel di luca and jorg jaske (I may have spelt both completely wrong) have stated that it's used in cycling to help cut weight. |
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Rupert
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 Jun 16 at 10:04pm |
Alcohol is the drug of choice for most sailors that I know.
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Steve411
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 28 Jun 16 at 11:29am |
When I was team racing as a student there were whole teams that would have failed testing for recreational drugs...
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iiiiticki
Far too distracted from work Joined: 06 Mar 16 Location: Derbyshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 206 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 28 Jun 16 at 1:00pm |
I take rampiril, Cardicor, atoravastin and aspirin. Will this get me banned?
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