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Post Options Post Options   Quote jaydub Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Sep 16 at 12:11am
The Zoom did have a trapeze and was aimed at the Laser II market.

For team racing the Zoom was sailed without spinnaker and trapeze.

If my memory serves me right, only Oxford Uni had them.
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Well, I bought the main. Apparently they had also the jib up until April this year. No longer the case, however I spoke with someone at SailRite in the US and they are able to make sail kits in blue and white - apparently much more expensive than the 60 quid of the original from the guy I bought the sail. It's coming on nicely...dead beat after watching paint dry for two days (and chasing down bugs that love to sit on my fresh paint) They have also spinnaker sail kits available at SailRite. Does anyone know anything about the quality of the fabric they use?
Happy weekend everyone.
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Well done, he can't have many left,
I may be selling my zoom!
Cannot get on with centre main,plus keep hitting head on boom,i'm no longer flexible or quick enough to miss it, that's probably also why I capsize easily,!
Going to try again tomorrow with no jib, and mast in forward position
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Medway Maniac Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Sep 16 at 9:57pm
Originally posted by Fatsailor


Cannot get on with centre main,

Surely you can just unreeve the mainsheet from the block mid-way along the boom and swap over the blocks on the traveller and boom end, then you have transom sheeting?

If you're using just the mainsail you'll want to keep the traveller, otherwise if using the jib as well, tie the lower block centrally.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Fatsailor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Sep 16 at 1:05am
Have sorted out a rough transom mainsheet , not much leverage with single pulleys, the traveller is a rope horse, well more like a lame donkey than a horse! Kept kneeling on the lower block, rather painful with dodgy knees!.
If I can get on with this I will sort out double pulley arrangement , and yes it does point better with traveller central.
Thanks for your interest
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Iberico, my mast is 18 feet in length. Single piece. No taper oval section,
Measures 200 mm from one side of slot all the way around to other side of slot ,same at the top .
Alloy is approx 2 to 3 mm thick.
No spreaders .you could probably buy the right section from one of the mast makers,and you would need the foot. Unless you could make that!
Got too dark to measure slots for shrouds and forestay,
Need your email to send pics.
Boom is same thickness of ally, any boom will do that fits your sail,plus 6 inches to stretch via outhaul
Maybe easier /cheaper to source second hand depending on your location.
The LASER 2is almost an identical boat and has a mast height of 5metres
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Post Options Post Options   Quote iberico Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Sep 16 at 1:38pm
Thank you very much Fatsailor. Here is my email: griffein [at] yahoo.com.  One of your posts made me thinking. I'm not young anymore either so I think it would be a good idea to rise the gooseneck a bit, make it easier to tack/gybe, hence a custom mast would be a better option. Maybe you can post a picture of the rudder and daggerboard if you can. Have no idea how they look and I don't want to buy an used laser 2 one. DIY at this point for me, as I am over budget already.
Thanks again for your help.


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Hi everybody . Here's the real story of the ZOOM. 


This dinghy was designed in 1978 in Viareggio/ Italy by two young sailors, Giuliano Tofani and Lapo Ancillotti. (Giuliano is  me) ... we was only18 years old and with  only a CLASSICAL high school background, ( old greek, old latin…)

in short, armed only with passion and desire we have begun to build, ZOOM,  and in meantime also learning everything you need to build light and strong GRP boats , helped by a 70 year old engineer who built GRP industrial products,  as bodies for trains, aircraft parts, etc, all stuff it had to be light and stiff.


all in the backyard, my mother and the neighbors complaining of fiberglass stench and because of the noise, we were building the prototypes at night, during the day we went to school ..


final result was a dinghy of just 60 kg when similar boats was around 80 kg, 

and the the very flat hull made ZOOM a very fast hull. 


so in my opinion the result was not so bad ....


to meet the Italian market the equipment was economic, stright mast etc, but the centerboard  was built in any case with a 30-layers plywood, oriented at 45 ° and NOT broke for when you jump on after capsize !!!


After pioneering the first year, and after improving many details, for the following 4 years we built this boat, opening a real shipyard, named MULTIDEA.  with about 400 exemplares in italy.


then unfortunately, it was 1982, the windsurfing arrived on the market, and  the Italians were not real stable sailor at those time, not  enthusiasts like you English,  so all the dinghy market died except for the Olympic classes and the Laser.


we stopped building ZOOM and using the past experience we  began building racing boats of 10-15 meters, (IOR) in Kewlar, than carbon and epoxy, and growing more and more, we have become  a real shipyard with 15 workers, large shed, secretaries and many phones that ring at all time…. In 1995 after having launched a 105 ft sailing boat ( !!) I decided that my personal passion was sailing and not build sailing boats, then we sold the shipyard. (Which now is always in good healt and it's called VISMARA YACHTS in Viareggio Italy)


How Zoom  arrives in UK: Fletcher in 1980 bought two boats and we give  permission to build them under licence and royalty. 


We come in UK, in Bedford, with two boats on the truck pulled out of the car an old OPEL caravan,  sleeping with sleeping bag into a tent, no money in the pokets.


after a test in the water at the local yacht club, on a very narrow river in a very windy day, in a very freezing day,  all remain enthusiastic of the ZOOM performances. 


The deal was done, we spend a bit of days to explain how to make boats and we went back to Italy. 


We'll never see a penny of royalty ... 

this does not do much honor to you UK, but patience, was so long ago! let's be friends anyway. 

But for this reason I have no idea how many Zoom was build in UK.


then from Fletcher, the molds pass to Anglo Marine and we lost all ZOOM traces in UK. 

the only thing I am sure, reading yours comment in this blog , it is sure the centerboard built in UK was a vey cheap playwood…


more about techicals: 


 the first 20 Zoom was single sail, after we added the jib

we in Italy was selling Zoom with trapeze and spinnaker, very nice. as optional


the last 10-15 ZOOM build in italy, was experimental again, with more sophisticated GPR, unidirectionals fibers  had a shorter boom and the Mainsail with the first Top batten complete from the mast to the leech, so the sail was more modern and the mast was tapered.


Bruce Farr disegned a sailing plan for us like a 18 feet, total sq mt sails: 60 sqmt,,,,  a very disaster,  after she capsized twice stern to bow we ralised that somting wrong happened:  we met Bruce very late at night in a pub after a regatta,  after a lot of beers…  not the right way to design anything.  experience closed.


to be honest I don’t own any Zoom at this moment, my dream is to buld a ZOOM in carbon fiber/epoxy, 40kg.  and sail again it, The problem I have lost the moulds…


 so, after this long story, I want to  thank you very very very  much to this forum to make me relive those glory days !!!


in case  you need more info , you can contact me giulianotofani@gmail.com


Giuliano

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Fatsailor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Oct 16 at 11:06pm
Thank you ,really good to find out the history .I hope you fulfil you're ambition
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Post Options Post Options   Quote iberico Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Nov 16 at 9:26pm
Hello Fatsailor,

I've seen several posts about a Zoom 14 lately, with two mains and a jib... Have you decided to sell after all? I'd buy you the sails, mast and boom and standing and running rigging for 120 quid... if your willing to ship them (shipping is on me).

Thanx.


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