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Post Options Post Options   Quote iiiiticki Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Jul 16 at 6:15am
You can clearly see the forward mast position in this picture.
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Yes .I have tried it briefly,a bit slow without the jib,will try again with more breeze
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I have listed my Zoom on ebay for all to see: 272329876479
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Hello,

I bought a beat up hull of a ZOOM 14 I'm patching and plugging  for about two weeks now.  I bought it with no spars, foils or sails. I want to make it fully functional by the next season and I wonder if you could help me with some dimensions of the mast/boom/rigging/foils and sails assuming you have the originals (or something that works for it). I try to make it as close to the original as possible.

If it's not too much trouble could you measure the mast and boom (length, how many parts is made of, diameter bottom and up and thickness of the aluminum), where the gooseneck and spreaders are located against the bottom of the mast, angle of  the spreaders, as well as the dagger word and rudder (some pictures would be great). I can't think of anything at this point, but I'm a complete noob so forgive me if I forgot something important out. 

Thanks a lot for your help (I apologise for my English, I'm not a native speaker.)
Kind regards,
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Fatsailor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Sep 16 at 12:20am
Hi iberico, I can fulfil all your requests and will do later this week.but to start, the mast is single piece, approximately 18 feet, NO spreaders shrouds and forestay have TEE fittings into slots in the mast,however if you can source a mast with a collar , then use whatever you like, there is no association, or class rules,if you let me have your email I can send pictures etc.there is a chap on eBay will sell you a brand new mainsail with battens for 100 , I bought one ,I will measure the jib and shrouds etc .the rudder is the same as the laser two. So probably is dagger board. In fact the boat is almost identical ,just a little bit longer and wider.
Check the hull/deck joint by the shroud fixings, mine became delaminated and shipped a lot of water , now cured with the aid of aluminium tube and epoxy
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Our Zoom mast is very straight with little taper. I've heard that an Enterprise mast would be a suitable replacement and it would certainly be OK for single handing the Zoom (mast in forward position) but I'd question whether it has the strength to take a trapeze for double handing (mast in rear position).
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Post Options Post Options   Quote iberico Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Sep 16 at 1:36pm
Originally posted by Fatsailor

Hi iberico, I can fulfil all your requests and will do later this week.but to start, the mast is single piece, approximately 18 feet, NO spreaders shrouds and forestay have TEE fittings into slots in the mast,however if you can source a mast with a collar , then use whatever you like, there is no association, or class rules,if you let me have your email I can send pictures etc.there is a chap on eBay will sell you a brand new mainsail with battens for 100 , I bought one ,I will measure the jib and shrouds etc .the rudder is the same as the laser two. So probably is dagger board. In fact the boat is almost identical ,just a little bit longer and wider.
Check the hull/deck joint by the shroud fixings, mine became delaminated and shipped a lot of water , now cured with the aid of aluminium tube and epoxy
Good luck

Thank you very much Fatsailor. I really appreciate your help. There's no rush. I'd rather get it right than fast so anytime you can it'll be perfect. I looked at the sail on eBay, seems pretty short at 5 meters/luff - I was under the impression that it had a very long mast from the picture posted on this topic - but seems a rather good deal at 100 quid. Mine has signs of separations but not wider than 1-2 inches. I decided to glue them with Poxipol - advertised as 'plastic welding' - I hope that works...
Thank you again for your help. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote iberico Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Sep 16 at 1:55pm
Originally posted by patj

Our Zoom mast is very straight with little taper. I've heard that an Enterprise mast would be a suitable replacement and it would certainly be OK for single handing the Zoom (mast in forward position) but I'd question whether it has the strength to take a trapeze for double handing (mast in rear position).

Hello Patj, thank you for the tip. I want to make the mast myself - just to make sure it'll not brake under too much tension - which means I 'll end up probably with a heavier than usual mast but one that can take a trapeze.  3mm thick tube with an insert of another 2mm tube at the foot of the mast up about 2 feet above the gooseneck.

I wonder if anyone uses a spinnaker on these dinghies... there's so little information available. It must be a really old design and make; it's incredible they survived to this day.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Saraband Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Sep 16 at 4:13pm
The book cover of the Zooms racing is possibly from the RYA team racing championships that were held at Queen Mary in, I think, 1980 or 1981. I was sailing for Wales and we turned up knowing the event was using 5 flights of identical brand new Zooms........the first time we saw one was on the way out to the start!

As already mentioned, there were a few quality issues and someone has already mentioned the weak plywood dagger boards. For this event, the bigger issue was the rudder blades, which kept fracturing at the bottom of the stock, partly because of the poor quality plywood and also because it was wrongly orientated, with the grain going up and down, rather than diagonal.

The bosun's solution was simple......he tidied up the broken blade, re-drilled a hole and sent us back out. By the end of the event most boats had little more than 15" deep rudder blades, but as the race officer said "they are all matched"!!!

It made little difference to the outcome of the racing.....the better sailors still won but I doubt anyone left QMSC desperate to buy a Zoom, or even see one again! Shame really as they were okay to sail, just needed better finishing.




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Post Options Post Options   Quote Fatsailor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Sep 16 at 6:55pm
I have been told the zoom was made in seventies,trapeze???? Have seen o sign of one, I have a photo of a book cover, by Eric twiname, called the rules,it features two zooms with no sign of trapeze, cannot add pictures to this site
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