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Rupert
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Topic: Topper sailing in a breeze Posted: 08 Jun 16 at 6:50am |
It isn't the bit along the boom, it is the bit from boom to boat when gybing or even tacking. To get clear when tacking or gybing facing forwards you have to move so far aft you sink the stern, especially if big enough that much time is spent central in the boat. |
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JimC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 Jun 16 at 11:32pm |
You spend money on a boat, you don't invest in it. With a boat of that age you might if lucky get 10% of what you spend back in increased value when you sell it. |
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piglet
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 Jun 16 at 10:24pm |
Check your boom diameter, if it's 1 3/4" then you have a boat worth investing in. As you rightly say, improving the boat you already have would spread the cost. |
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423zero
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 Jun 16 at 10:08pm |
Fit a duck under to avoid strangulation.
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Rupert
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 Jun 16 at 9:34pm |
At large adult size, centre main will make the boat seem even more tiny, and you'll get the rope wrapped round your neck.
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JimC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 Jun 16 at 8:57pm |
Potentially controversial question! The main reason, AIUI, that the Topper went to the centre main was that the RYA wanted all youth boats to be centremain so kids learned with them from the start. There's a kind of sense in that since relatively few boats use the aft main as a default option these days. The centre main is not demonstrably faster round a race course in a Topper. By preference I think I'd possibly teach kids with a centremain and adults with a stern main, but probably depends where and what they are going to sail to a considerable extent. Because a stern main is so much more intuitive than a centre main its much more trouble going from stern main to centre main than vice versa, but equally its more trouble to learn to sail in the first place with a centre main. In higher performance boats a stern main has disadvantages, but such craft are tending to move from the conventional centremain with the last block on the floor to off the boom sheeting. |
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Longwayround
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 Jun 16 at 8:19pm |
I am, by the way, delighted that my first post to this forum has got such a healthy discussion going. :-)
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Longwayround
Newbie Joined: 03 Jun 16 Online Status: Offline Posts: 8 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 Jun 16 at 8:18pm |
My boat is, unless I'm very much mistaken, equipped with the superchute and steel plate but even so it probably would be more economical to buy a newer Topper. That said, that would require me to spend all the money at once. :-)
Are there any genuine advantages to a centre main?
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Riv
Far too distracted from work Joined: 23 Nov 13 Location: South Devon Online Status: Offline Posts: 353 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 Jun 16 at 7:21pm |
Variety is the spice of life and there is nothing wrong with an aft main, quicker to tack in light winds and easier to learn.
Frankly I feel that the emphasis on centre main is a barrier to inclusion and probably puts people off, it is really quite diffficult to do well and requires good coaching at times. Aft main is a bit like paddling a SOT, dead easy and works well, and look at the number of SOTs! My club has a rapidly expanding Canoe, Kayak group and a stagnant dinghy group. I know why. So lets embrace variety and enjoy the aft main. |
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zippyRN
Far too distracted from work Joined: 14 Sep 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 437 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Jun 16 at 11:49pm |
especially given that aft mainsheet is how the topper was designed ... i'm not sure where the reference to 'pre -production' and a 16k sail number came from ... surely pre-pro would be the toppers that were all or half GRP ...
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