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In double handers in survival weather have the crew attempt to hold the boom in the centre of the boat as it comes over for a fraction of a second.  This stalls the momentum of the boom as it comes across and  might set the sail on the new side.  It seems to break up the rhythm of several things which can all load up at once and cause the big unsettling lurch which usually is the start of the broach or capsize.

I've never had to do it in a single hander, just try to keep speed up and the boom out of the water.
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Seems like an odd thing to do... In a two hander as forward hand I've always thrown the boom across as soon as it was physically possible so that it goes early, maybe even before the boat reached DDW. That minimises the slam as the sail goes across and means the boat is still going as fast as possible which minimises the point loads even more.
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 In a two hander as forward hand I've always thrown the boom across as soon as it was physically possible so that it goes early, maybe even before the boat reached DDW

I'd agree, getting the boom over late is one of the surest ways to end in the water. The earlier you can get it over the better
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I hate that. The boom won't come, then bang, over it goes, and over the boat goes. I can see some logic to a nanosecond of stopping, or at least controlling it, in the middle, though, but the timing would have to be amazing, so there is no pressure on either side of the sail. Bit like stopping when going DDW in follow my leader.
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In Ents with aft mainsheets, you had to wait until the leach started to twitch before getting crew to yank the boom.  I used to hate run to run gybes when it was really windy.

The 200 can be twitchy, but it's a much easier to gybe than the Ent ever was.  No idea how centre mains in Ents has affected things.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote iGRF Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 May 16 at 4:38pm
Never involve the chinese.. who come the moment you inadvertently let go the mainsheet in the EPS.

I have no problem double handed, I don't have a big problem with the Solution, but the bloody EPS can be a total bitch and I have yet to find a cast iron system for really windy, other than don't bother going out in waves, what with the racks digging in and the rig chinese gybing me in to weather, it is the boat I swim from most often.
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The term Chinese gybe is an odd one. In the olden, pre-kicker days, it meant that the boom skied, letting the top of the sail gybe before the bottom had. In the Volvo race they were using it for a gybe where the boat gets pinned on its side, which I'm sure is something else.
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In a hiking singlehander in a big breeze, try oversheeting considerably pre-gybe. You should still have enough power to keep the boat moving quickly. As you start the gybe pull the falls across and as the boom then comes across let the mainsheet run out.

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This technique works well in ents, fireflies etc, something where you will struggle to get the boat fast enough to unload the main. As a crew you just give a heave back the way it came as the boom passes the centreline and starts to load up. There's really not to much of a knack to it. Probably wouldn't recommend this on more modern lightweight boats, but in reluctant planers with heavy booms it can really help calm gybes.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote iGRF Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 May 16 at 11:11am
Originally posted by Rupert

The term Chinese gybe is an odd one.


Agreed, I might be using it entirely wrongly, so the term I need describes a windward capsize after the gybe which is precisely opposite of what normally happens.

We have a useful term in windsurfing I think I might apply, it's called a monkey gybe.
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