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Is there a study version showing the changes?
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The vertical line to the right shows where there are changes. 

Outside Appendix C (match racing), AFAICS, no major changes, particularly to part 2. it's mostly housekeeping. 

 

Definitions now include one for "support person". 

 

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Penalty for breaking rule 2 can now be DSQ or DNE. 

3 (Acceptance of rules) completely re-written. Includes support people 

New rules 6 and 7 - betting/anti corruption & disciplinary code. 

 

Part 2 preamble: boats can now be DSQ for breaking 14 and causing injury or serious damage (as well as 24.1) when not racing. 

New 18.2.d  Rules 18.2(b ) and (c ) cease to apply when the boat entitled to mark-room has been given that mark-room, or if she passes head to wind or leaves the zone. (Old 18.2.d and 18.2.e renumbered e and f respectively). 

18.3 Only applies at port hand marks. 

New 19.1.b Rule 19 applies between two boats at an obstruction except (b ) when rule 18 applies between the boats and the obstruction is another boat overlapped with each of them.

20. Re-written. Now states when boats may hail, rather than when they shall not. 

21 now part of section D, no longer refers to section C. 

22.3 applies to boats moving sideways to windward by backing a sail. 

24.2 rewritten. Now "if reasonably possible". 

30.3 New "U flag" rule. Aka a black flag that doesn't carry over if the start is general recalled. Black flag is now 30.4. 

32.1. Can now shorten to allow time for subsequent races, and can only abandon for starting errors. 

32.2 Can now shorted at a line that boats have to cross. 

 

40 - Y ashore = PFDs when afloat at all times. 

44.2 Scoring penalty now 20% of DNF score (not entries, as before).

 

49.1 now refers to when lifelines are required by class or any other rule.(not just SIs)

55 Trash. Penalty now discretionary. 

60.4 New rule. Technical committees may protest. 

60.5 However, neither a boat nor a committee may protest for an alleged breach of rule 5, 6, 7 or 69.
61.1.a.4 No flag required if the crew is in danger. 
53.4 New rule - conflict of interest. 
63.7 Broadened to conflict between rules, not just NoR & SIs. 
64.3 - housekeeping on class rule protests. 
64.4. New rule: Decisions concerning support people. 
 
69 Rewritten. 
 
78 Housekeeping. 
84, 85, 86 housekeeping. 
 
Appendix C 

Big changes: 17 deleted completely, 18 now the test rules. 

 

Appendix D

17 has not been deleted, contrary to much rumour.


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Originally posted by Quagers

Is there a study version showing the changes?

Study version doesn't seem to have been published yet. Unfortunately the revision marking in the version that has been published is incomplete (doesn't include Appendicies).
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IIRC, the revision markings of past rulebooks didn't included appendices either. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote GML Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jul 16 at 10:42am
Originally posted by Presuming Ed

IIRC, the revision markings of past rulebooks didn't included appendices either. 

Indeed, but the 2013-2016 study version did.
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I'd be surprised if they do one. Lot of work for limited benefit. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote GML Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jul 16 at 11:26am
Originally posted by Presuming Ed

I'd be surprised if they do one. Lot of work for limited benefit. 

I personally found it useful to be able to understand the background to the changes last time around. I also assumed that it had been produced during the re-drafting process (as an aide for the committee), rather than as an afterthought, but I might be wrong about that. Guess we will have to wait and see.
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Does anyone understand the changes to 18, why does tacking in the zone now only apply at port hand roundings?
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It was never very relevant at starboard hand marks anyway, because the boats have to get on port to round the mark so the boat coming in on the "wrong" tack has right of way.

The original argument in the submission was this.
Reason
Some complexity in the application of the current rule 18.3 was highlighted in Case 133. Rule 18.3's purpose is to help an orderly rounding of port-hand windward marks by limiting the rights of boats that approach on port and tack onto starboard in the zone. The rule should be restricted to this. The proposed amended rule:
1. Makes the rule (which is an exception to the normal 18.2) apply only when necessary:
• At windward marks to be left to port. It is unnecessary and has undesirable
consequences at starboard marks.
• Between a boat that tacks in the zone and one that does not. This removes the
complexity with two boats that tack in the zone shown in Case 133.
2. Includes only the tacking boat in the initial ‘when it applies’ clause to make the purpose and application clearer.
3. Is simpler. The statement about rule 18.2 not applying (necessary so that rule 18.2(e) does not apply) is moved to the end. The redundant phrase ‘or prevent her from rounding the mark’ is removed.
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Honestly I think this just complicates matters, now we have different rules applying depending on which way you are going round the mark? People barely know the rules as it is.

It also changes the game in team racing a bit, I've certainly used this rule at starboard hand mark 1's before.


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