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Ripped50s
Newbie Joined: 03 Jul 17 Location: Hampshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 3 |
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Topic: Double Hander for Father / Son combo Posted: 05 Jul 17 at 9:43pm |
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Thanks Eisvogel will look out for that. Got a couple I've found locally so starting to get looking properly.
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Eisvogel
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jul 17 at 9:40am | |
Just make sure the hull is OK. We've got a Vision as a training boat, and I believe there was a manufacturing fault with some boats, which meant the hull was to thin in places, the deck cracked and it started taking on water.
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Enterprise 20361 (Eisvogel), Laser 102727 (Halcyon), Laser 121986
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Ripped50s
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jul 17 at 7:46am | |
Thanks for the extra comments especially the OP whose thread I have mini hijacked. (Sorry)
I've spotted an RS Vision up for sale. It looks like it might just take all of us on a not too lumpy day and it's got a trapeze (eldest will love this I expect) and provide a little room for growth. Edited by Ripped50s - 05 Jul 17 at 7:58am |
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Jack Sparrow
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 04 Jul 17 at 5:03pm | |
RS200 lively / National 12 equivalent?
I sailed the RS200 on the first test sail days with another N12 stalwart at the time. And I can say with authority that the RS200 it is not that lively and nowhere near equivalent to a N12. N12 hull shapes, sailed or owned - Wild Front Ear, Baggy Trousers, Crusader, Design 8, Final Chapter, Street Legal, Tigress, Feeling Foolish, Numinous, Big Issue. |
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turnturtle
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 04 Jul 17 at 2:05pm | |
+1
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JimC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 04 Jul 17 at 1:45pm | |
Oh gosh no, I disagree entirely. The RS200 is a pure racing craft for two fairly lightweight sailors, ideally both reasonably experienced and competent.. In many ways it could be considered a National 12 equivalent. The 2000 is a bigger and heavier general purpose boat that will carry more weight and more people, and be much more tolerant of beginners, but isn't nearly so lively a craft as the 200. Edited by JimC - 04 Jul 17 at 3:05pm |
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Sam.Spoons
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 04 Jul 17 at 10:07am | |
I would say (though I haven't sailed the RS200) that the 200 is a much racier proposition than the 2000. The 2000 has a little more sail but is longer and nearly twice the weight all up (200kg to the 200's 114kg). I do know of a couple of guys who sail 2ks solo but they're a bit of a lump to handle onshore. The 200 OTOH is probably about the same as a down-to-weight Enterprise when you're hauling it up the slip. A nicer proposition but still a fair bit of boat for one guy to manage if the slipway is at all steep. Quite fancy a 200 myself though I'm probably on the heavy side, my typical crews are 80kg+ and I'm 78kg.....
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Ardea
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 04 Jul 17 at 9:20am | |
The RS200 (as mentioned earlier in the thread) does very similar things to a 2000 and I think is similar money, it will certainly increase the number of potential boats for sale out there.
However with the RS200 over the laser 2000 in my opinion you trade off some stationary stability and load carrying capacity for a bit more speed.
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Doctor D
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 03 Jul 17 at 11:19pm | |
Still looking! Had a little break from single handed sailing and have just sold my D-Zero. Now looking for a Laser 2000. Typically, now I've got my act together, there seems to be a lack of them on the market!
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Ripped50s
Newbie Joined: 03 Jul 17 Location: Hampshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 3 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 03 Jul 17 at 10:56pm | |
Just wondering if the OP has bought anything yet and if so where he got to?
I'm just about to return to sailing and introduce our two primary school age kids to the sport and we're going to be sailing in tidal waters so got a very similar dilemma. I've been looking for the boats I remember being prevalent when I started out (Miracle, GP14 etc.) but started to broaden the net and find myself looking at Larks, which I raced a lot and used to be comfy single-handing these in modest breezes and Scorpions but my instincts are telling me the latter might need a bit a more muscle than is comfortable with the mini 50s aboard. I'm trying balance that with being able to take Mrs 50s. Suddenly a small yacht is looking good! What am I missing?
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