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Having an on the water element is a nice idea, but I think the logistics defeat it. When I've seen on the water trials of boats it seems that its often a struggle to get much more than 10 people per boat per day. For Laser or RS, OK, maybe bring 10 or 20 new boats, sold off as show specials at the end of the weekend, but for the average class association it probably means at least two extra show quality boats, plus enough extra volunteers to support the boats on land and waters edge, possibly crews too, in order to get maybe 20 trial sails. Then you've got to pay insurance, and somehow deal with the inevitable collisions.

Then you've got to figure in changing facilities for some hundreds of people, plus the clutter of those hundreds of people carrying sailing gear round the show all day. Then the classes will worry about weather. If its really light the performance boats will fear people will be put off, if its strong the owners will be panicking about breakages from the ham handed. If its chucking down with rain or freezing cold the class volunteers will freeze, not to mention reduced turnout...

Too many classes struggle with getting their act together for the show anyway, I fear that trying to introduce an on the water event would spectacularly increase the complexity of the event, beyond the capacity for many classes to manage.

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Which was why that FOM we had was not a bad embryonic idea, each day a couple of races in your own boat and the last race of the day your swapped and in between races you could take whatever you liked out, if you want a return to the original muckers and messers concept of class gatherings, I think that's the way it should go.
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So the Dinghy Show attracted about 8000 visitors....about the same as for the past few years.
How many dinghy sailors currently active in the UK? Still about 1000 clubs, average membership maybe 300...do the maths.
Not only is the show not attracting the numbers it ought to, but considering that it advertises itself as the formost, the biggest and the best dinghy show in the world, the post event  coverage is lamentable.
For the 290,000 who for one reason or another cannot get there, ( believe it or not, London is not the centre of the universe, honest )  there is no way of knowing what was there, who was there,  no pictures even. Incentive to attend next year....I don't think so
Suzuki will not be happy, and Yachts and Yachting, who consider themselves to be the foremost sailing magazine should be totally ashamed of their non-coverage.
Almost nothing on line. Where are the videos, the interviews? Apart from an occasional class association blowing its own trumpet, the Show was almost a non-event.
Come on guys, get a grip, get yourselves sorted, or give up

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Post Options Post Options   Quote JimC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Mar 17 at 11:04am
I think you should wait for the magazine to be published before criticising them for their coverage!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote andyk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Mar 17 at 11:06am
Coverage in the paper version has, for the past few years been equally lamentable.
I seem to recall less than 10 pages, over two issues last time
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I think waiting for a magazine doesn't really work these days Jim. The multi media content should all be out there on the internet by now in my opinion.

For example, contrast the coverage of the dinghy show with Pistonheads coverage of the Geneva motor show which happened days apart.

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strange i saw loads of coverage from various suppliers and class associations  on social media platforms, i thought how much better its gotten with the "live" feeds now.  conversely i don't subscribe to piston heads and didn't see any content from Geneva, they must be doing it wrong...

If you look in the right places you'll find a rich vein of content, just because its online doesn't mean it falls into your lap.
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The post event coverage is a bit weak. I didn't attend this year due to another commitment but am very interested to see what went on, but it's no where. Last year having spent a whole day on a stand I was keen to see the pics from around the show. I contacted Mr Gruitt on social media to see when he was going to provide a slideshow but he implied that he was putting something together for a publication and I'd see it shortly but nothing! This year I've seen nothing so far other than the grumbles about the Flying 10.

The expectation is that media will be available instantly, after all I guess many people came back from the show, dumped all their pics on Flickr etc. And shared with their mates. Media businesses like Y&Y need to be going one better than your local club amateur photographer and getting the content out almost live.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Kev M Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Mar 17 at 10:31pm
Originally posted by Oli

strange i saw loads of coverage from various suppliers and class associations  on social media platforms, i thought how much better its gotten with the "live" feeds now.  conversely i don't subscribe to piston heads and didn't see any content from Geneva, they must be doing it wrong...

If you look in the right places you'll find a rich vein of content, just because its online doesn't mean it falls into your lap.

Silly me for thinking that I might be able to go to a news source for some journalistic content on the biggest annual trade show rather than the puff piece PR stuff pumped out by suppliers (and to a lesser extent CAs) scattered across the internet.

There's no subscription to Pistonheads, it's just a website you visit when you want to read about car stuff, and it has a forum tacked on the back of it.  I could draw a few parallels with the setup here, one key difference though is the Y&Y website "news" content is predominantly user/supplier generated and on PH it's predominantly internally generated.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Rupert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Mar 17 at 7:52am
Nice Moth interview. Especially the elderly chap looking at the boat during it!
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