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HaylingSailor
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Topic: RS 400 or RS 200 or something else??? Posted: 05 Jul 15 at 11:54am |
Hi,
I hope you can help? We are a couple weighing close to 130kg looking for a suitable dinghy and we would value your opinion? We are ready to buy and have £2k to spend.. We are interested in an asymmetric, no rack, no trapeze, fully fibreglass hull.. We have been looking at the RS 400 and RS 200.. Looking forward to hearing from you all. Thanks |
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JimC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jul 15 at 12:46pm |
Get a ride in both and see how you get on. The 400 is bigger, steadier, IMHO very heavy on the mainsheet and seems to need weight to get through waves. The 200 is lighter, moderately tippy, not roomy for a big crew. If you're racing at Hayling maybe the weight is on the 200 side.
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transient
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jul 15 at 1:19pm |
The 400 likes a heavier team, your weight suggests to me the 200 would be better. This factor is not the be all and end all though.
Also (and this may not be of interest) HISC operates a tidal correction on the handicap numbers. The 200 gets a big leg up @ 1066 while the 400 remains very similar to standard @ 949 Edited by transient - 05 Jul 15 at 1:20pm |
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craiggo
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jul 15 at 2:51pm |
At 130kg I'd say RS200.
You'll need around 150kg to really drive a 400 upwind. |
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HaylingSailor
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jul 15 at 5:12pm |
Thank you for the comments, we will hopefully be trying an RS 400 next weekend so will see how that goes. There certainly seem to be more 200s available. Is the RS 400/200 right for what we want? We do want to do some racing but also exploring of the harbour, we were wondering if we were over looking a similar style of dinghy? Any suggestions?
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JimC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jul 15 at 5:30pm |
I think as good as any. They're really updated traditional style dinghies, better for casual sailing than the more extreme skiff influenced types. On the other hand they're more sophisticated and to me satisfying to sail than more entry level boats than the rotomoulds.
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transient
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jul 15 at 5:33pm |
For cruising and racing in and around Chichester Harbour the 2000 might be worth considering, it's racing handicap on the open sea is very favourable. For cruising it's more stable and forgiving than either the 200 or 400. Plenty of room in it also......the only drawback I can see is the hull weight. Without a winch it's a bugger to pull up the beach.
The 200 class association has recently approved some design changes. I would guess that's why there are a few about for sale at the mo. Edited by transient - 05 Jul 15 at 5:40pm |
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craiggo
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jul 15 at 7:42pm |
Transient is right. The 2000 is generally considered underpowered but has good fleets and is a better bet for a bit of dinghy cruising. Jeremy Warren of Hafren fame (sailed around the UK in a Wayfarer), sailed his 2000 from Thornbury SC to Lundy and back, and also crossed the English Channel.
Im sure Matt Sargeant will be along soon to share his 2000 knowledge. |
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SoggyBadger
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jul 15 at 8:14pm |
As have many dinghies from Mirror to foiling Moth. |
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Best wishes from deep in the woods
SB |
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piglet
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jul 15 at 9:16pm |
We have a 200, we did weigh 145 but have battled this down to 135 and the boat is noticeably 'happier'.
I have crewed a 400 and my hulk of a 17yr old son is trialling a 400 with his 9' tall mate, they look perfect in the boat, but I wouldn't even consider a 400 for us as a couple. Get a 200. |
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