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Spot on second paragraph, Rupert.  Your first just illustrates the subjectivity and frustration that local PY adjustments often imply.

The current version of Sailwave gives the option of including a BCR number in the published results, which is basically the number that a boat would have needed to finish joint first.  

I love including it if for no other reason than to cow those members who bang on about how they would be winning if it weren't for the latest round of RYA PY changes.  Here's an example from last Sunday's (F3-4, largely windward-leeward Medium Fleet race:


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Blimey, that Wayfarer absolutely hammered the rest of the fleet!

And yes, the first para does exactly that - why an adjustment is made will be lost in amongst the noise and confusion.


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As usual - either him or the other good, Hartley Wayfarer sailor.  

I reckon - and they don't disagree that they should be on 1080 (*).  But it would be pointless because
a) they would probably still win a lot
b) their clubmates would still moan the PY was too generous.

* for years the Wayfarer was on 1099, then they added slot gaskets, which the builder said were worth about 1% more speed, now we have the new, unquestionably-faster-in-most-conditions Hartleys...
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Originally posted by iGRF


Yes yes yes I know all that, precisely why I think the system is screwed, I'd rather they had just left it as it was when I first turned up, at least I could have a fixed measure as to my performance, 40 points on here, 10 points off there, that's no sport, exactly the reason to adopt a fixed measured system. I don't want my performance artificially assisted any more than I want it reduced, I'm trying to learn how to do this thing, how can I do that all the time they're shifting the bloody goal posts all over the place?

Wouldnt your fixed measurement system have spat out a new number for you when you bought that new sail or you re-routed your mainsheet, increased purchase on the kicker, moved the racks more inboard, etc? Therefore it wouldnt have stayed like it was when you first turned up.
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Originally posted by GybeFunny



Wouldnt your fixed measurement system have spat out a new number for you when you bought that new sail or you re-routed your mainsheet, increased purchase on the kicker, moved the racks more inboard, etc? Therefore it wouldnt have stayed like it was when you first turned up.


Well if the beam/righting moment were part of the data input required then yes it would give a different number, for the rack movement or sail, my racks are fixed now on the innermost position thanks to the storms blowing the boat off the trailer and bending some bit that probably shouldn't be bent.

But, that programme MM has put up there, that I need, trouble is I'm all mac, and it's a piece of godawful PC software by the look of it, I wonder if that's what they were using, I honestly don't normally bother to even look at results down there til the following week to see how bad/much I've got to improve.
I did actually enter temporary crap mode and got unsynched from the shifts so in my mind I didn't deserve to win, but then he made a fundamental error, taking the tack furthest away from the mark whilst I took the right one, then God sent me a beaut of a header, which gave me an instant 20 boat length cover, then instead of waiting me out he tacked first and let me stay behind and inside him so the next shift gave me another ten boat lengths and order was fully restored...Prior to that he'd gotten in front of me so the result should have been tighter and I would have expected to be beaten on handicap, so my guilt was doubled, I don't wake up screaming in the night about it, but I'm not comfortable, to the point here I am confessing my sins...

PS, just stop taking coastal returns altogether and leave us with the PN's as of 2007, it was fine then.

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http://www.sailwave.com/

Yes PC, or Linux for the cognoscenti.

Everyone has gripes over it, but until we get something better it does a pretty good job, and it's free (though WSC made donation).
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