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    Posted: 28 May 15 at 5:48pm
2.19.0 installed.  Thanks very much.
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Hi Medway Maniac,

Version 2.18.5 is stable - there are no known issues
Version 2.19.0 is available at 
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/220425/sailwave.exe
This is an exe only so you need to install 2.18.5 then replace the Sailwave.exe

2.19.0 has all of your wish list implemented for you  Smile

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Thanks Jon.  Yes, I was aware of 2.18.5, but it's beta, and we are delaying updating the club's laptops until there is a stable version.

Certainly steps in the right direction.
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Hi Medway Maniac

If you didn't already know 2.18.5 is available from the Sailwave site.  This allows you to use the F2 key to edit a cell (Same as Excel ) and you also have the Copy Paste and Cut available on the competitor cells.
2.19.0 is available on request now and will be released generally very soon this has the other feature that was on your wish list.  Double click on a competitor parameter cell and the competitor form is display on the matching tab and the field you clicked is selected and highlighted.

Let me know what you think
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To edit any competitor field simply click on the field and press enter - you can then edit it or select from the presented dropdown - I think that is what you are looking for.


Thanks for the tip, but actually that is another good example of something only a very regular user would learn and remember.  

I'm sure that most of ROs would prefer a more Excel-like interaction, even if it was just one of the F2 or double-click Excel options, or as I said before, if when the whole competitor form was brought up on double-clicking, the cursor was already in the appropriate place corresponding to the double-clicked cell.
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Hi Medway Maniac,

First all the versions for the last couple of years have been file compatible. OK if you use a feature that is only in a newer version then that won't work in the older version and any thing specific to that feature will of course not be saved but for general work there is no problem

To edit any competitor field simply click on the field and press enter - you can then edit it or select from the presented dropdown - I think that is what you are looking for.

Double clicking will bring up the whole competitor form for editing.

So if you want to change a helm/crew name select it and press enter - Bingo

Hope this helps

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I must agree. The more it behaves like a spreadsheet the better for the casual user.
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We're currently using 2.9.7.0, frozen simply so that the various users in the club can exchange files without the risk of problems such as we had in the past when we upgraded independently.  We should probably update the version regularly, say once a year, and now would be a good time to do it.

I think to make S'wave really user-friendly would probably require a complete re-write, but one thing everyone I've introduced it to stumbles on is that it looks like an Excel spreadsheet but can't be edited the same way. Typically (trivially even, but I must admit this erks me still) you can't just double click on a cell or press F2 to edit it, you get the whole entry with the cursor where you don't want it.  If the cursor sprang to the data you'd clicked it would do the trick, I guess - I seem to be forever changing helm/crew names  Confused

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Hi Medway Maniac,

Hopefully I can clarify it a little.  Ratings come from the ratings file when you first enter them and Sailwave remembers the ratings for any class that you override.  So in normal use it is very easy it gives you the default but allows you to override it to a value that is specific to your club.

If you want to load all the values from a file every time (or a new set then you tick the box) but this is not the normal.

You don't say what version of Sailwave you are running but the later ones do have a User interface in the Setup to make it easier for the twice a year RO's as this enables it to be configured with features removed that are not applicable to the specific user.  Unfortunately Scoring is not always a simple job due to the different rules and parameters that different clubs use.  Please if you have any suggestions as to how it can be made easier then please let us know.

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Thanks to all above for this thread from last year.  It's just saved me a lot of head-scratching.

If I was a seven-days-a-week race officer I'd no doubt fully master Sailwave, but it just has too many hidden tricks and pitfalls like this for occasional ROs, or even for semi-regular ROs like myself to discover then remember.

Hope that doesn't sound ungrateful, because I'm not.  Sailwave is  great program for sailing clubs that covers a host of possibilities, but I'd suggest that future development needs to be focussed improving accessibility for twice-a-year ROs.
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