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As far as I could tell from your opening post, you were saying that the USA team must have changed stuff illegally to have won. They are saying they didn't put anything new on, and explained how things worked, and where the changes were made to the stuff they did have. Sounds pretty open (at least by AC standards - after all, they might be using the technology again next time), unless you are convinced that the team is hiding something, which you appear to be, in which case you will be asking and asking for them to show something they don't have, but you will never believe they don't have anything to show.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote xraykong Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Oct 13 at 10:23pm
Yes. But remember Dennis Connor accusing TNZ of cheating in previous cup and successfully demanding a core sample from the plastic fantastic after it was passed by measurers? It was done. I am saying that the way foils operated ( and other hydraulic systems) is unlikely to have been possible without closed loop feedback and utilization of stored energy. So I want a' core sample' please
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You can demand it all you want, but realistically the only party that's even got half a chance of getting anywhere would be ETNZ. If they don't feel aggrieved enough to take that road, then it simply will not happen.
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Not demanding anything. ETNZ do not have resources. They did ask the question.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote alstorer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Oct 13 at 9:01am
your questions are going to go unanswered. Oracle simply are not going to release the data you want. Face this fact and get on with your life.
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Hahaha! I am 62. I work shift. I look sfter a schizophrenic daughter and 85 yr old Mother. I still run 6km/day weather permitting. I get out on the water when I can. My life continues. I ask these questions because someone needs too. Its not an obsession. Not trying to give Oracle a hard time. Today I downloaded latest Java. In order to do so I had to select trust this sender. It is Oracle software. I did. This not a conspiracy theory. Basic questions based on experience and training in a specialust area. I remain skeptical. And so do others.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote xraykong Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Oct 13 at 9:46pm
Perhaps we need to remain focussed on the issues instead of shooting the messenger?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote iGRF Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Oct 13 at 10:06pm
Originally posted by xraykong

Perhaps we need to remain focussed on the issues instead of shooting the messenger?


My Mrs favourite saying that, she says it a lot to our girls, 'the messenger always gets shot', 'don't be anyone's grubby little messenger".

If they want to come out with any message then let them, if they don't, then respect that as well, I think all of us that watched what happened have our own opinions as to why it went the way it did, it can't be changed now.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote xraykong Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Oct 13 at 7:51pm
Or can it? The outcome of AC 45 series was. And that was only discovered by chance afterwards.
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