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Post Options Post Options   Quote anonsteve1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Oct 05 at 10:25pm
This won't damage the moth per se, it will merely attract people from non-foiling classes to foiling. However classy it is, the moth will always be a really hard boat to sail, not accessible to everyone. A production foiler would simply bring more people to the idea of foiling.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote catmandoo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Oct 05 at 11:52am
They haven't beaten a path to hobies foiler in great masses, but a bit cumbersome and a different type of foiler !
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yeah but this is a proper foiler, not a cat with sum odd excuse for a foil under each hull
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Post Options Post Options   Quote catmandoo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Oct 05 at 12:32pm

cats where i sail have two hulls ,

I did say "but a bit cumbersome and a different type of foiler !" as the reason it hasn't caught on or liable too !

Just like the hobie Doh !!!!!!!!, thinking of the tri foiler which was as little success too .



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I am the M4 designer. I have posted a couple of photos that have not been put on the website yet. I am intrested in all the comments. The project has been formed to try and bring foiling to more people. Hence the 14ft hull, and the racks with pods on the ends. I has to be said this is still very early stages, this is purely the 2nd protoype which is a long way off being the finish product. A lot of work is being done, looking into fesibility, practicality, and how much its going to cost. 

A few stats, Hull weight 18kg, Sailing weight 45kg

Max speed in 7.5 knots of breeze 14.3knots of boat speed

Max sailing speed 20 knots so far yet to be full tested.

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Whats the sail area in relation to the moth?

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It looks interesting and I guess its a lot easier to sail than a moth.  I'm surprised it gets foiling in 7.5 knots of wind the crew must be hollow!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote catmandoo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Oct 05 at 9:56am

7.5 knts is Force 3

I would be most dissapointed with any performance boat that didn't get up and go in this windspeed.

When sailing  5.9 and grossly overweight we would be twin traping and flying a hull .

 

Perhaps Scottish breeze is more powerful

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Jack Sparrow Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Oct 05 at 6:56pm
Originally posted by catmandoo

7.5 knts is Force 3


I would be most dissapointed with any performance boat that didn't get
up and go in this windspeed.


When sailing  5.9 and grossly overweight we would be twin traping and
flying a hull .


 


Perhaps Scottish breeze is more powerful



Did you read that the right way.

14.3knts boat speed in 7.5 knts of breeze. in other words twice
wind speed.

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