Yachts and Yachting Online Forum http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; Yachts and Yachting Online Forum : Last 10 Posts Copyright (c) 2006-2009 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Thu, 17 May 2012 00:51:44 +0000 Wed, 16 May 2012 23:31:56 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 9.665x 30 www.yachtsandyachting.com/forum/RSS_topic_feed.asp Yachts and Yachting Online Forum http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/forum/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/forum/ Dinghy development : Well Ive picked up the 12 http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9330&PID=1321404#1321404 Author: fleaberto
Subject: Well Ive picked up the 12
Posted: 16 May 12 at 11:31pm

]]> Wed, 16 May 2012 23:31:56 +0000 http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9330&PID=1321404#1321404 Dinghy development : Anyone seen or used these before? http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9349&PID=1321403#1321403 Author: Mike Holt
Subject: Anyone seen or used these before?
Posted: 16 May 12 at 11:28pm

I have them, like them.Added benefit they dry overnight.]]> Wed, 16 May 2012 23:28:58 +0000 http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9349&PID=1321403#1321403 Olympic Sailing : Olympic spectator http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9352&PID=1321402#1321402 Author: bert
Subject: Olympic spectator
Posted: 16 May 12 at 11:12pm

seems like quite a few of the powerboats were getting in the way & even ( Possibly ) causing the capsize of a laser.
]]> Wed, 16 May 2012 23:12:55 +0000 http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9352&PID=1321402#1321402 Technique : Is the Zhik harness worth the money? http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9336&PID=1321401#1321401 Author: Fans1024
Subject: Is the Zhik harness worth the money?
Posted: 16 May 12 at 10:38pm

Thanks for all of the comments.  I know trying on the harness is the only way, but wandering around the store/hanging off a 'trapeze wire' for 5 minutes isn't going to give you an idea of x hours on the water in a F4-5 etc.

As much as I loved my olde harness, as I said, for no apparent reason, after 18 months or so, it felt like it was going to cut me half.  Hence the concern of harnesses with err hard materials.

My concern re the spreader bar is, I'm a girl and obviously we have broader hips.  I would be really interested in other girl's opinions. 
]]> Wed, 16 May 2012 22:38:42 +0000 http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9336&PID=1321401#1321401 Dinghy development : Glyn Charles Pursuit, 20th May: Forum showdown? http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9236&PID=1321400#1321400 Author: andymck
Subject: Glyn Charles Pursuit, 20th May: Forum showdown?
Posted: 16 May 12 at 10:23pm

The modern 12 is much faster up wind, the foil makes up the waterline length, and they point higher. The 200 is faster on an angle it can get the kite really working, so depends on wind strength. The newer 12's are probably close to 1050 in certain conditions.
I would bet on the 12 unless there are lots of reaches where the kite can come in play.

Andy
]]> Wed, 16 May 2012 22:23:24 +0000 http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9236&PID=1321400#1321400 Olympic Sailing : Olympic spectator http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9352&PID=1321399#1321399 Author: ellistine
Subject: Olympic spectator
Posted: 16 May 12 at 10:10pm

Given the right wind direction and a pair of Bino's you'll see something like this (From the test event)

https://picasaweb.google.com/117583675358849515737/TestEvent
]]> Wed, 16 May 2012 22:10:51 +0000 http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9352&PID=1321399#1321399 Dinghy development : Well Ive picked up the 12 http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9330&PID=1321398#1321398 Author: Jon Meadowcroft
Subject: Well Ive picked up the 12
Posted: 16 May 12 at 9:43pm

Interesting thread.  Good luck with your purchase.  

To others considering a 12, I rarely sail my 12 with less than 22 stone on board.  If I do, I am sailing with the kids (aged 6 and 8) and I am 14 stone of the deal.  Weight is an issue when you are up against the very best lightweights in what is marginal planing for them.  Generally to sail a modern 12 well your boat handling needs to be first class.  In light conditions with kids this is possible given that the task that they have is largely limited to the jib sheets and the helm can cover other bases.  Heavier combinations can get a little bit more leeway in stronger winds, where if you are light you need to be excellent.  At 22 stone, a top 5 finish at the Champs has been within our grasp regularly in recent years across a wide range of venue and a wide range of conditions.  Of course you can also tell yourself that the boat is ridiculously weight sensitive and this is not possible, but sadly the facts do not bear this out.  Like in many dinghies a good light crew is well advantaged compared to a heavier crew, but few classes truly allow the owner to tweak their hull and rig in order to make the boat competitive across a wide range of weights

I first sailed a Twelve 25 years ago (a Baggy Trousers N3193) and I have owned one ever since.

John
]]> Wed, 16 May 2012 21:43:18 +0000 http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9330&PID=1321398#1321398 Olympic Sailing : Olympic spectator http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9352&PID=1321397#1321397 Author: PeterG
Subject: Olympic spectator
Posted: 16 May 12 at 8:18pm

I think you will be better off watching it on the tele!

Isn't that what you will do anyway at Weymouth? Watch it on a big screen with some small white dots in the background?]]> Wed, 16 May 2012 20:18:38 +0000 http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9352&PID=1321397#1321397 Dinghy development : Well Ive picked up the 12 http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9330&PID=1321396#1321396 Author: craiggo
Subject: Well Ive picked up the 12
Posted: 16 May 12 at 7:56pm

Originally posted by Dan Vincent

Without wishing to hijack this thread to badly another 12 footer to consider sailing with your chidren would be the Firefly.

I weigh about 85kg and have sailed/ raced with my 12 year old daughter since she was 6.  The Firefly will not touch the N12 for speed, but if you are looking for a nice little dinghy (which produces an impressive amount of spray and giggles) then you can't get much better value.


In the North West - West Kirby, Budworth and South Staffs all have fleets where I am sure someone could give you a trial sail.

 



Or a Graduate!]]> Wed, 16 May 2012 19:56:44 +0000 http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9330&PID=1321396#1321396 Dinghy development : Anyone seen or used these before? http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9349&PID=1321395#1321395 Author: craiggo
Subject: Anyone seen or used these before?
Posted: 16 May 12 at 7:54pm

How much?????????????



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